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	<title>Comments on: Miscellaneous System Notes</title>
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	<description>yet another warped perspective</description>
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		<title>By: Reid Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reid Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any imap daemons that use MySQL for mail? And, if there are, are there any command-line clients that can parse/use these mailboxes?

Hm, one reason I like mbox format is that I can burn it to CD and read it with software 20 years later without a problem. Maildir is what (ex)mh uses, right? Where a mailbox is a dir and messages are files? Sort of like seeing your mailbox explode. :-)

That would be fine with something like rfs, which is optimized for small files, but I think it would kill ext2 if you have huge mailboxes (which I do -- several over 1000 messages).

I guess for archival, if I had some SQL thing, I could have a script that spit everything out in mbox or something..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any imap daemons that use MySQL for mail? And, if there are, are there any command-line clients that can parse/use these mailboxes?</p>
<p>Hm, one reason I like mbox format is that I can burn it to CD and read it with software 20 years later without a problem. Maildir is what (ex)mh uses, right? Where a mailbox is a dir and messages are files? Sort of like seeing your mailbox explode. :-)</p>
<p>That would be fine with something like rfs, which is optimized for small files, but I think it would kill ext2 if you have huge mailboxes (which I do &#8212; several over 1000 messages).</p>
<p>I guess for archival, if I had some <span class="caps">SQL</span> thing, I could have a script that spit everything out in mbox or something..</p>
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		<title>By: Harald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure there are software packages out there that store e-mail in a MySQL database; I haven't researched that specifically. Google is your friend :-)

My archived mail is currently 507Mb (wow!), in  47450 files (with a couple of control files in each folder, I have slightly fewer actual messages). In practice, I don't have any trouble with using MH format; EXMH as a GUI hides that detail, and the MH/NMH command line tools are very easy to use (they were designed that way, after all).

Maildir format is a little weird; the filenames are long and somewhat unintelligible, so using standard command line tools is more challenging. I've eneded up with a few perl/python scripts to make life easier.

Mutt speaks maildir format directly, as does courier IMAP; between the two, it's easy to manipulate my mailboxes. Also (as you mentioned) I keep my primary mail on my laptop in MH format; the maildir stuff is a) for other cfrq.net users that use IMAP and/or webmail, and b) for when I'm travelling and using webmail instead of my laptop.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there are software packages out there that store e-mail in a MySQL database; I haven&#8217;t researched that specifically. Google is your friend :-)</p>
<p>My archived mail is currently 507Mb (wow!), in  47450 files (with a couple of control files in each folder, I have slightly fewer actual messages). In practice, I don&#8217;t have any trouble with using MH format; <span class="caps">EXMH</span> as a <span class="caps">GUI</span> hides that detail, and the MH/NMH command line tools are very easy to use (they were designed that way, after all).</p>
<p>Maildir format is a little weird; the filenames are long and somewhat unintelligible, so using standard command line tools is more challenging. I&#8217;ve eneded up with a few perl/python scripts to make life easier.</p>
<p>Mutt speaks maildir format directly, as does courier <span class="caps">IMAP</span>; between the two, it&#8217;s easy to manipulate my mailboxes. Also (as you mentioned) I keep my primary mail on my laptop in MH format; the maildir stuff is a) for other cfrq.net users that use <span class="caps">IMAP</span> and/or webmail, and b) for when I&#8217;m travelling and using webmail instead of my laptop.</p>
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